Spontaneous shutdowns?

Scott Tringali scott.tringali at totalviewtech.com
Wed Jan 2 17:41:18 CET 2008


Thorsten Haude wrote:

> At 2007-08-02 20:16 -0400 you write: 
>> for a few months now, [...] once a week, I get a spontaneous shutdown.
> 
> At 2007-08-02 07:13 you write:
>> Added OpenMotif 2.3 to stable list.
> 
> Now for SF's broken date I don't know which happened first but I would
> think that the former would preclude the latter.

The subtext here is "Why didn't you mark OM 2.3 it unstable?"  You could 
just ask directly, I can take it.  I do try to apply the same stability 
criteria to LessTif as OpenMotif, but I may be wrong.  I'm happy to 
explain why.

So:

I added it to the stable list fairly quickly after installing it in my 
own CVS area, after verifying that it didn't die in two minutes of 
actual use (as is typical for most bum LessTif versions).  That was far 
before the commit date.

That's my personal protocol marking *any* Motif bad: if I can fairly 
quickly crash or hang it, with some repeatable user action.  So 
OpenMotif got a pass here.

LessTif has benefited from this.  There have been plenty of times I've 
witnessed a strange crash in LessTif, but not tagged it unstable - 
because it was very difficult to reproduce as well.

If I used the "ever crashed at all" as criteria, then pretty much all 
versions LessTif and Motif would be marked bad.  It's difficult to say 
sometimes what's an nedit bug and what's a toolkit bug sometimes.  Just 
because Motif X crashes and Y does not, doesn't mean Y is right, 
sometimes it is our fault!

After banging on OM 2.3 for a months, that motif.c file was committed. 
Hence the dates you see.



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